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This page is obsolete. It is being retained for archival purposes.
It may document extensions or features that are obsolete and/or no longer supported. Do not rely on the information here being up-to-date.
See
Talk pages project
for the follow-up project.
Participant groups are a critical part of the "
hub-and-spoke
" structure of the
2019 Talk Page Consultation
. The primary project page on this wiki, MediaWiki.org, will be the centralized "hub" for the entire process. To allow for different types of Wikimedians to share their thoughts, we want everyone to be able to talk about wiki discussion systems in their primary language in an environment where they feel comfortable.
What is the name of the participant group?
A formal or informal name to identify the participant group. This can be an existing name (such as an affiliate name or WikiProject name) or a new name just for this consultation.
Which language?
The participant group should discuss talk pages in whatever language they feel most comfortable. The final report will however be done in English.
Which user will be the primary contact?
Participant groups can be as large or small as they decide, but each group needs one (or two users) to coordinate the group with the central talk page consultation here on MediaWiki.org.
This user needs to read and write English. We will be in regular contact with this user to make the process as easy as possible.
This user commits to treat all feedback and opinions equally, and take them into account in the final report.
How will you consult your group?
For some groups this may be on their home wiki, others may decide to discuss on another website (such as a social network, as many communities already do), while others may want to talk in-person, such as at an edit-a-thon.
Where will you document your discussions?
For conversations that happen on-wiki, please provide a link to the discussion. Setup a separate page on (biggest) wikis may help to track all the feedback. For conversations that happen off-wiki, please provide a link to a written summary of the discussions. These can be in your preferred language, and we will coordinate translations later.
Phase 2
Click to read the Phase 1 report!
In its second phase, the consultation is focusing on conversation around trade-offs. Community summaries for Phase 2 are
due by June 24, 2019
. Each participant of the group gives individual feedback related to the below questions:
What do you think of the proposed product direction?
Context
: The Wikimedia Foundation proposes building a new, clearer design on top of existing wikitext talk pages. It will offer simpler tools for replying, indentation and signatures. You could continue to use wikitext on talk pages, if you prefer that. It should also be possible to participate in a discussion without using wikitext.
Question
: What do you think of this product direction?
Marking separate discussions
Context
: People want to watch individual sections on the talk page. They want better notifications, archiving, and search. To do any of this, we may need to create a more structured definition of what counts as a single discussion. This may mean making changes to the wikitext conventions on a talk page. For example, we may create a new way that discussion headings look in wikitext, or a new link that you need to use to create, rename or split a thread.
Question
: What are the advantages and disadvantages of that approach?
Helping newcomers find the talk pages
Context
: Newcomers have difficulty finding talk pages. During user tests, only one person out of ten found the Discussion tab. Most testers looked for a Discussion tab on the opposite side of the page, where all of the other tabs and links are. Many people also expected to see links to discussions about specific sections in the article. We may want to move the link to the talk page to the opposite side of the article page. We might add discussion functionality connected to individual sections.
Question
: What are the advantages and disadvantages of making the connection between article content and discussions more visible?
Where to show discussion tools
Context
: Currently, many wikis have community discussion spaces in the project namespace (
Project
or
Wikipedia:
), rather than in a talk namespace (
Project talk
or
Wikipedia talk:
). The project namespace is often used for village pumps/cafés, noticeboards, and some workflows, such as
Articles for deletion
. The system will need to know where discussions happen, so that it can display the new tools in those discussions, and not display them on other pages. There are several potential ways to do this. One of them is to move all discussions to a talk namespace.
Question
: What are the advantages and disadvantages of doing that?
History tradeoffs
Context
: Sometimes, you need to see the history of the entire page. Other times, it would be more helpful to see the history of only a single discussion thread. It would be ideal if we could provide both, but we're not sure how to do that.
Question
: What are the advantages and disadvantages of having a complete page history or a specific thread history?
Metadata location
Context
: Some wikis place templates at the top of article talk pages. These may show instructions, warnings, or FAQs. They may hold page quality information, link to relevant WikiProjects, or identify past activities. Many new users are confused by finding non-discussion material at the top of an article talk page. It would be helpful to move some or all of that content somewhere else on the page, or under a different tab.
Question
: What are the advantages and disadvantages of that approach? Which templates are crucial for the proper use of a discussion page, and which could be moved somewhere else?
Every participant gives others the opportunity to express themselves: we're collecting feedback, so this is not a vote or a decision process. At the end, all of the feedback will be documented.
Participant groups 2
Community summaries
for Phase 2 have been posted!
Note for volunteer coordinators: please add your wiki to the lists below:
The first table lists pages that are ready to receive feedback. A banner will be displayed to logged-in users on your wiki, using the provided page.
The second table is for pages that are still under construction. When ready, please move the page to the first table, so that the link can be used in the banner.
Confirmed participant groups
What is the name of the participant group?
Which language?
How will you consult your group?
Access the discussions
Which user will be the primary contact?
Notes
Chinese Wikipedia
Chinese
On-wiki, Facebook, Telegram
Chinese
Taiwania Justo
English Wikisource
On-wiki
Beleg Tâl
English Wikipedia
On-wiki
Jc86035
French Wikipedia
French
On-wiki
French
Lofhi
Russian, all wikis
Russian
On-wiki
Russian
Sunpriat
German Wikipedia
German
On-wiki
German
MBq
Dutch Wikipedia
Dutch
On-wiki
Dutch
Ad Huikeshoven
Wikidata
On-wiki
Jc86035
Polish
Polish
On-wiki
Polish
Thai Wikipedia
Thai
On-wiki
Thai
Tris T7
Czech Wikipedia
Czech
On-wiki
Czech
Dvorapa
Under construction groups
To be confirmed groups
What is the name of the participant group?
Which language?
How will you consult your group?
Access the discussions
Which user will be the primary contact?
Notes
Japanese Wikipedia
Japanese
On-wiki
Japanese
Bletilla
This second table is for groups that are under creation. If your group is ready to receive feedback, please move it to the first table.
You can also participate by leaving a comment
on the report's talk page
Phase 1
Phase 1 groups
In its first phase, the consultation is not a debate or a process to get a final decision on agreeing on what to do/not do. Each participant of the group gives individual feedback,
following the guidances
When you want to discuss a topic with your community,
what tools work for you
, and what problems block you?
What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?
What do others struggle with in your community about talk pages?
What do you wish you could do, but can't due to the technical limitations?
What are the important aspects of a "wiki discussion"?
Every participant gives to others the opportunity to express themselves. At the end, the feedback is documented (see below).
When the feedback collection ends?
Community summaries for phase 1 are due by April 6, 2019. Ending the consultation by March 31 may be a good option to have enough time to analyze and structure the feedback.
Participant groups
Already existing groups are listed below.
Community summaries are due by
April 6, 2019
. We advise communities, especially the ones that would have had collected a lot of replies, to end the conversation by March 31.
We do not advise creating new groups now, unless you can get a significant amount of feedback before the due date.
Confirmed participant groups
What is the name of the participant group?
Which language?
How will you consult your group?
Where will you document your discussions?
Which user will be the primary contact?
Notes
Arabic Wikipedia
Arabic
on-wiki, Wiki-ar mailing list, Twitter
Arabic Wikipedia
Talk pages consultation 2019
User:Dyolf77
Catalan Wikipedia
Catalan
on-wiki
Consulta sobre Pàgines de discussió 2019
Mikicat
I've set up a section in the main community discussions' page to talk about it.
Chinese Wikipedia
Chinese
on-wiki, Facebook and Telegram
2019年討論頁諮詢 (Talk pages consultation 2019 on Chinese Wikipedia)
Taiwania Justo
Commons
Mainly English
on-wiki
c:Commons:Talk pages consultation 2019
Jc86035
(provisionally);
possibly others
As above.
Jc86035
talk
14:53, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
reply
Dutch Wikipedia
Dutch
on-wiki
Dutch Wikipedia
Overlegpagina's raadpleging 2019
User:Ad Huikeshoven
talk
English Wikipedia
on-wiki
English Wikipedia
Talk pages consultation 2019
Jc86035
(provisionally);
possibly others
I've set up a section on the page for users to indicate that they would be interested in summarizing the discussion and would be able to do it.
Jc86035
talk
14:33, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
reply
English Wikisource
on wiki
English Wikisource
Talk to us about talking
User:Beleg Tâl
French Wikipedia
French
on wiki
Wikipédia en français
Consultation sur la communication 2019
Lofhi
French Wiktionary
French
on wiki
Wiktionnaire en français
Sur les outils de discussions
Pamputt
German Wikipedia
German
on-wiki
Globale Konsultation zum Thema Kommunikation 2019
Sänger
Hindi Wikipedia
Hindi
on-wiki
Talk to us about talking
Wikilover90
J ansari
(provisionally); (Possibly others)
I can be reached via Wikimail or my talk page
Hungarian Wikipedia
Hungarian
on wiki
Konzultáció a vitalapokról és a közösségi kommunikációról
Samat
Iberocoop
Spanish, Portuguese, Italian
Telegram group
on meta-wiki, Iberocoop space
Superzerocool
I'm a
Tech Ambassador
for Spanish Wikipedia, but I'd prefer do this volunteer work on Iberocoop.
Japanese Wikipedia
Japanese
on-wiki
Japanese Wikipedia
2019年ノートページに関する協議
Bletilla
Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia
Norwegian Bokmål
on wiki
Norsk bokmål Wikipedia
Hvordan snakker vi med hverandre
Jeblad
talk
Seems like it is only me on the discussion page, so it will not be much summarizing to do!
Jeblad
talk
12:37, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
reply
Polish Wikipedia
Polish
on-wiki
Dyskusja Wikipedii:Konsultacje w sprawie stron dyskusji
Informational page
I plan to make this place also for sister projects in PL or ask them about another place.
Russian Wikipedia
Russian
on-wiki
ru:Википедия:Форум/Архив/Общий/2019/02#Консультация по страницам обсуждений 2019
Talk:Talk pages consultation 2019/Participant group sign-up#h-О_mediawiki-2019-03-02T16:00:00.000Z
Sunpriat
From our old discussions around Flow, you can pick up a few suitable thoughts about communication systems in general:
Thai Wikipedia, Newcomers
Thai
on-wiki, Facebook
Thai Wikipedia, newcomers
Talk pages consultation 2019
User:Tris T7
User talk:Tris T7
Contact me via sister Project on Meta, Commons, & Global account
User:Tris T7
Wikidata
Mainly English
on-wiki
Wikidata
Talk pages consultation 2019
Jc86035
(provisionally);
possibly others
As above.
Jc86035
talk
15:47, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
reply
MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group
mainly English
in person at
EMWCon Spring 2019
Talk pages consultation 2019/Program and event organizers
User:MarkAHershberger
Under construction groups
To be confirmed groups
Which language?
How will you consult your group?
Where will you document your discussions?
Which user will be the primary contact?
Notes
Serbian Wikipedia
Serbian
on-wiki
w:sr:Consultatio and comunication
Contact me on еn:
User:Intermedichbo
ср:
Корисник:Intermedichbo
Intermedichbo
My name is Milorad Dimic MD. I am a Specialist of Aviation and Hyperbaric Medicine. A place for communication —
Корисник:Intermedichbo
维基中文文史类条目小组
Chinese
on-wiki
User:Daniel J Zhao
Bulgarian Wikipedia / Българската Уикипедия
Bulgarian
on-wiki
TBC
User:Dreamsparker
My name is Preslav Yankov and I would wish to help with all my knowledge to the development of Wikipedia.
Bengali Wikipedia
Bangla
on-wiki, Facebook and Discord discord .gg/JSD9EXP
Talk pages consultation 2019
PromiseKun
English Newcomers
on-wiki and Instagram (additional)
English Wikipedia, newcomers
Talk pages consultation 2019
User:Manupriy Ahluwalia
talk
I've set up a section for this purpose on my Talk Page.For Instagram you can contact me on @manupriy.
User:Manupriy Ahluwalia
Hausa Wikipedia
Hausa
on-wiki
Talk pages consultation 2019
Em-mustapha
Sindhi Wikipedia
Sindhi
on-wiki, Facebook and Instagram (additional)
Sindhi Wikipedia, existing & newcomers
Talk pages consultation 2019
User:JogiAsad
; (Possibly others)
I've set up a section for this purpose on Sindhi Wikipedia.For Instagram you can contact me on @Sindhi_Wikipedia_Official.
User:JogiAsad
This second table is for groups that are under creation. If your group is ready to receive feedback, please move it to the first table.
If your community is not listed above, please go to
the top of the page
to find the information about creating a consultation group.
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