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One-liner dashes
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Welcome
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Hello Koavf!
Welcome
to
Wikivoyage
To help get you started contributing, we've created a
tips for new contributors
page, full of helpful links about
policies and guidelines
and
style
, as well as some important information on
copyleft
and basic stuff like
how to edit a page
If you are a
Wikipedian
then you may notice some differences in policies and the style of our articles. These include:
NPOV
be fair
(not
quite
the same thing!)
be bold
plunge forward
Village pump
travellers' pub
External links
We do not use a separate
external links
section, but incorporate
primary links only
into the text itself.
sandbox
graffiti wall
stub notes
Article status notes
It may also be very useful for you to check out
Wikivoyage:Welcome, Wikipedians
. If you need help, take a look at
Project:Help
, or else post a message in the
travellers' pub
or on my talk page. Thanks for contributing!
James
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07:38, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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Your interesting signature
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Although I like to think my English is good, it was not the language I first spoke and I could not decipher what the symbols meant. If it's a secret you can email me and I promise to keep it; if not, please explain here, Justin. Thanks! --
08:46, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
No secrets
First off, your English seems fine to me--I certainly understand you! Furthermore, my signature isn't a secret: ❤ (heart) is for love, ☮ (peace sign) is for peace, ☺ (smiley face) is for non-violence, ☯ (taijian) is for intuition. Or, to put it in religious terms,
agape
shalom
ahimsa
, and
wu wei
. Feel free to ask me whatever you'd like here or via e-mail. —
Justin (
ko
vf
09:48, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for the prompt response, Justin. I did look at your very interesting User page on Wikipedia before I wrote you and I kinow that you are a person of faith and convictions. I think my confusion was because of the circular shape of the symbols and I wondered if they should be substituted for the letter O-oscar, leading to a signature of "I love ToCoMo" and I could not figure out who or what ToCoMo was! Sorry to be abstruse or nosey --
22:42, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
ToCoMo
No, they don't mean that, but I now wonder how many others thought that... No worries, being nosy--you're fine! How's the weather in Singapore? —
Justin (
ko
vf
06:45, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
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The weather doesn't change very much in Singapore so we talk about other things (grin). I'm not in Singapore right now - I get to travel quite a lot and the weather right now in the Southern Hemisphere late spring is terrific - it's Goldilocks weather - not too hot, not too cold, just right! So, again being nosy (just don't answer if you don't care to), why are the symbols separated by those particular consonants of Tango-Charlie-Mike, Justin?
Incidentally, I think some good points were made at
Wikivoyage:Travellers'_pub#Babel_templates
, don't you?
What the heck is the section underneath about? What on earth are "DotM and OtBP icons"? --
06:53, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Symbols
T =
User
alk:Koavf
, c =
Special:
ontributions/Koavf
, m =
Special:E
ailUser/Koavf
Wikidata
just got started up and establishing user language categories is a real priority over there, since it's multi-lingual, so that just got me thinking. I don't want to see some mistakes repeated over here. "DotM" is "Destination of the Month"
a highlighted spot that has a well-written travel guide
and "OtBP" is "Off the Beaten Path"
for more obscure locations. See
Wikivoyage:Destination_of_the_month
. How are you enjoying South America? Do you know Portuguese or Spanish? —
Justin (
ko
vf
07:36, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
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Ahhhhhhh, now the penny drops!
By the way, did you know that, for some obscure reason that I cannot fathom looking at your signature code, the "T" is not being linked to your Talk page when I hover my mouse over it or even click on it?
Thanks for explaining those acronyms - I've been searching for quite a while but was too frightened of asking Peter - he can be a bit sharp.
I've never been in South America
and I'm a bit reluctant to specify exactly where I am in the Southern Hemisphere since, due to my rather special position, I value my privacy very highly - sorry not to be as open as yourself but I think you would understand why if we ever meet and I tell you the full story... --
07:50, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Acronyms and such
I'd be interested in knowing more about your adventurous lifestyle. If you're willing, go ahead and e-mail me... —
Justin (
ko
vf
09:37, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
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adding categories to articles.
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Has there been some change to category methods? Until now articles have been added to the region above category via IsPartOf. Any reason for adding articles to its own category such as with
Belfast
? --
Traveler100
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05:06, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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No
I'm just ignorant. I was trying to clear up
unused categories
and it seemed like
Belfast
should be the main article in
Category:Belfast
. —
Justin (
ko
vf
05:09, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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Yes there are a number of categories that need deleting. Mainly due to region articles being renamed and the old category once emptied not being deleted. --
Traveler100
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05:11, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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Was
this edit
intentional? Categories are added to articles via
{{
isPartOf
}}
, so there is no need to add them manually. --
Ryan
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06:34, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
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Wrh2
Yes.
Western Sahara
isn't navigable from
Category:Western Sahara
, which makes no sense. —
Justin (
ko
vf
06:35, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
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That's true of our entire hierarchy - Western Sahara is in
Category:North Africa
, not
Category:Western Sahara
. The category page for Western Sahara contains the text "Articles and sub-regions of
Western Sahara
" in order to link to the
Western Sahara
article. --
Ryan
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06:39, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
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Wrh2
Granted, this is nothing particular to Western Sahara but the whole category hierarchy needs fixing in that regard. Either through the inclusion of categories directly or through modification of the RDF breadcrumbs, etc. —
Justin (
ko
vf
06:41, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
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Try starting a discussion at
Wikivoyage talk:Geographical hierarchy
or
Template talk:IsPartOf
to see if others share that concern. Note that
Category:Western Sahara
states that it is for "
Articles and sub-regions of
Western Sahara
", and
Western Sahara
is neither of those, but if you could state your concerns with the current approach then maybe we can figure out a way to change things that makes sense. --
Ryan
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06:50, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
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Wrh2
Well, I don't see how
Western Sahara
isn't
an article of Western Sahara... But your point is well-taken about centralized discussion. —
Justin (
ko
vf
06:54, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
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Please do not add categories to articles or other categories. On Wikivoyage any categorisation is only done via templates. Create false structures is causing bots to make false edits and statistics report incorrect values. --
Traveler100
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09:28, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
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Traveler100
E.g.? —
Justin (
ko
vf
10:59, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
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topic categories
are added automatically by the template on creation and should not be in destination categories as will get processed as destination articles. --
Traveler100
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17:39, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
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Traveler100
Sorry if I was obscure. You wrote: "Create false structures is causing bots to make false edits and statistics report incorrect values." I'm asking for examples. —
Justin (
ko
vf
17:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion
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Hi Koavf, may I know why you added speedy deletion template to
Template:User th-0
when its a legitimate template. --
Saqib
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08:39, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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Utility
Why would we use this template at all? How is it useful to know that someone on an English-language website doesn't know any Thai? Besides, the
Babel extension
can indicate this anyway. —
Justin (
ko
vf
15:28, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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We've bunch of xx-0 templates so lets not use this template (and every xx-0) for every language that you don't know, but only when there is some reason why you might be expected to know it. For example, one may be of Thai descent, but does not speak the Thai language, or if one lives in Thailand but does not speak Thai. I myself living in
UAE
since a long time but doesn't speak Arabic unfortunately. --
Saqib
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16:00, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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Granted
But why would you use a template rather than the Bable extension? —
Justin (
ko
vf
16:35, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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I'm not so sure about this. It would be better if you please raise this issue on pub. --
Saqib
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16:40, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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Babel
I did
but it's not in
the archives
anymore. —
Justin (
ko
vf
17:03, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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There was some discussion of this
here
. That discussion seems inconclusive to me, but it might be worth restarting. --
Peter
Talk
21:55, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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My instant reaction is that Justin is correct for the reasons he stated so cogently in December 2102. --
W.
Frank
e-mail
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14:49, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
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Talk:Western_Sahara#wv:EngVar
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An answer to your (rhetorical?) recent edit summary is at the above discussion page, Justin.
I hope that, after reading it, you self-revert in this case, Justin. All the best! --
W.
Frank
e-mail
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14:46, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
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Your edit to my user page
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What was up with that? --
Jonboy
talk
) 22:31, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
"It's possible for other users to edit, change, delete, move, overwrite, add to, or otherwise mess around with User pages or subpages. It's generally considered bad form to do so, though, unless invited by the user."
Wikivoyage:User_page_help#Using_a_personal_sandbox
. Please do not do that again. If you have an argument to make that naming myself a docent of my own user page somehow harms Wikivoyage, please make it, rather than breaching etiquette. --
Jonboy
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23:09, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
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I'm trying to figure out why you have a problem with me naming myself a docent of my own user page?
It's funny.
It is a test of the markup.
If the problem is that you don't want my page to appear
Category:HasDocent
, then just say that, instead of making uninvited edits to my user page. I've had the code on my page (at the previous site) longer than the category has existed, but if it's become a problem, I'm happy to change it. --
Jonboy
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13:34, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
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Category
I don't want your userpage to appear in
Category:HasDocent
, which I thought I had made clear earlier but I guess not. —
Justin (
ko
vf
17:53, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for fixing the template; that's clearly the best solution. --
Jonboy
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16:11, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
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Default sort
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Hi, Koavf. What is the "Default sort" template, and what does it do?
Ikan Kekek
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22:11, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
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Sorting
{{DEFAULTSORT}}
is a
magic word
that sorts pages in categories. E.g.
Åstorp
will be sorted with "Å" (after Z), but if you add
{{DEFAULTSORT:Astorp}}
, it will be sorted with A, where one would expect to find it. —
Justin (
ko
vf
05:17, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
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Oh, I see. Thanks.
Ikan Kekek
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06:53, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
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Travellers
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Hi, Koavf. Very small point, but way back, Evan made "travellers" the standard Wikitravel (in those days) spelling for documents. We've kept it at Wikivoyage. It's also the standard spelling in British English, and I believe in all non-US varieties of English, so it's best not to "correct" it in articles about destinations outside of the US and a few highly American-influenced countries (e.g., Israel, Philippines, Marshall Islands).
All the best,
Ikan Kekek
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08:31, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
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Ikan Kekek
Thanks for that. I've made it "travelers" in the American content I've edited but I'll leave it "travellers" in documentation. —
Justin (
ko
vf
08:33, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks, and thanks for all the great work you're doing!
Best,
Ikan Kekek
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08:34, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
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Non-existent templates
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Hi there! Hope you are well. In looking through
Special:WantedTemplates
, I notice that several items are called for by
User:Koavf/monobook.js
. They show up in the list like this:
Template:' + 'DEFAULTSORT:' + lastName + ', ' + firstNames + '
Template:' + 'DEFAULTSORT:' + nounPhrase + ', ' + article + '
Template:' + name + '
Template:Further
Template:Futher
Template:Lang-' + code + '
Obviously these mostly don't and won't exist. Would it be too much to ask you to either remove these or comment them out of the code so that they stop showing up in the list as wanted? Thanks a lot...
Texugo
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15:07, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
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Texugo
I don't quite know enough about this to edit it without screwing up the scripts. —
Justin (
ko
vf
07:23, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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So this is something you are still using? Where did you get the code from?
Texugo
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11:08, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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Texugo
Correct. I got it from en.wp. —
Justin (
ko
vf
16:52, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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OK. I think we have figured out a way to fix the erroneous template calls without affect the js functionality. I have made the change
here
. It shouldn't affect anything, but if it does, please let me know. Thanks a lot!
Texugo
talk
02:05, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
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Contribution Survey of WikiTravel and WikiVoyage
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Dear Koavf,
Hello. I am a dedicated Wikipedian and a regular contributor to many other projects of Wikimedia. In addition to this, I also study the contributors and their contributions. In this connection, I have authored the following blogs studying different projects of Wikimedia Foundation
Wikipedia for Schools Project
(posted on Wikimedia Foundation blog)
Samskrita Bharati and Sanskrit Wikipedia: The journey ahead
(posted on Wikimedia Foundation blog)
A Focused Approach for Maithili Wikipedia
(posted on Wikimedia Foundation blog)
Two Shades of Wikipedia in Punjabi
(posted on Wikimedia Foundation blog)
A Survey of Esperanto Wikipedians
(posted on Wikimedia Foundation blog)
Wikimedia Projects in Urdu: Unleashing the Latent Potential
(posted on Wikimedia Foundation blog)
Hindi Wikipedia - An Encyclopedia Bridging New Bonds of Friendship Across Borders
I have seen the fact that you have created accounts on both Wikivoyage (WMF website) project and WikiTravel (a different entity). I will be glad if you could share your editing experience and observations by answering to the following questions, either
here itself
, or
email me
, if you have specified your own email address in the preferences of your WikiVoyage account or post me a message (privately or on my wall) on
with the responses to the questionnaire:
Questionnaire
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1. Please give a brief introduction of yourself.
2. Can you share your blog address?
3. Can you share your Facebook / any other social account particulars?
4. Tell us in brief about your traveling experience (national / international).
5. Reasons for your travels - personal / tourist/ academic / business.
6. Tell us about your editing experience on Wiki Voyage.
7. Tell us about your editing experience on Wiki Travel.
8. Which of these project do you prefer more and why?
9.Do you contribute pictures to Wikimedia Commons (
) , the database of currently 22,761,448 freely usable media files to which anyone can contribute?
10. Do you also contribute other Wikiquote (
) and Wiktionary (
) projects of Wikimedia Foundation?
11. Are a registered contributor on English Wikipedia / any other language Wikipedia?
12. Please feel to add any additional detail of your travel / online editing contributions?
Please feel free to circulate this questionnaire to the friends known to you who maintain accounts on WikiVoyage and WikiTravel. --
Hindustanilanguage
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03:25, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
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Hindustanilanguage
I'd be happy to help. As an aside, Wikitravel is only capitalized "Wikitravel", not with internal caps/CamelCase.
I'm Justin Anthony Knapp, a Wikimedian from Indianapolis, Indiana, United States.
I do not have a blog
You can find my Web presence on
w:User:Koavf
I've been around the States some--visited about half of the nation. I have usually traveled by bus but I've flown several times or driven as well. I've been to Chicago about a dozen times, Atlanta about 10 times, California five, the District twice, Pennsylvania once, and New York City once. While I was there, I also went to the United Nations building, which is extra-territorial.
Always for fun: to visit friends, to give a speech at the UN, and to go to a Wikimania conference.
I started editing Wikivoyage as such when it migrated to being a WMF project. My main interest is in updating the article on my home city of
Indianapolis
although I have edited a lot of content around here.
I got started on Wikitravel in 2005/2006 but never edited much there. In early 2014, I requested to be an admin to clean up spam, which I do regularly. I occasionally add content there but I always also add it to Wikivoyage as well.
Wikivoyage. It is a free-er project and it has technical and aesthetic features that I prefer (like custom banners and OSM slippy map integration).
I have added a couple dozen pieces of media to Commons.
I have started a couple of Wikiquote articles and a few Wiktionary entries. I have edited both of those projects in the past few days.
I have contributed something to virtually all of the Wikipedias. I am most active on en.wp, es.wp, and simple.wp.
I like to connect online communities and help where I can. In 2014, I've made it a point to edit more in other WMF projects and beyond (such as WikiIndex). —
Justin (
ko
vf
06:16, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
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non-breaking spaces
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Hey, appreciate all your edits recently. But I do have to wonder about the addition of non-breaking spaces before emdashes in
Wikivoyage:One-liner listings
, as you did
here
. Practically speaking, it's difficult to imagine any browser needing to break a line that close to the left margin, so is the non-breaking space really necessary?
Powers
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14:10, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
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LtPowers
I don't know about necessary (as you point out, they are more-or-less at the extreme left) but it can be useful. If you have "Chicago[space character]–" there is no real need for a non-breaking space but if you have "Chicago Highlands Mayor Richard B. Daley Memorial Park and Rodeo[space character]–" then you would want a non-breaking space to ensure that "Rodeo[space]–" are all together. (To use a real-life example, this is relevant for the Minneapolis/St. Paul/Twin Cities line.) —
Justin (
ko
vf
16:20, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
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Well, yes, I understand the concept, but even in the case of "The 'Twin Cities'" the likelihood of a break occurring after "Cities" seems extremely small. The available column width would have to be unuseably thin, don't you think? And if by chance the column width
was
that thin, then the non-breaking space would only make the problem worse, not better, by forcing a longer line.
Powers
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17:58, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
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LtPowers
It's really not that unlikely on mobile. In fact, I'd bet that if I pulled up the page on my media phone, it would do exactly that. Non-breaking spaces don't make longer lines (unless the two terms being put together are ridiculously long themselves--and they are not in this case); they make new lines. —
Justin (
ko
vf
18:29, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
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Sorry, yes, I was imprecise in my wording. What I meant was that on a display small enough for this to be an issue, letting the software break the line efficiently may override the need to keep the emdash from appearing alone at the beginning of a line.
Powers
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20:15, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
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LtPowers
How browsers behave will vary of course (and it's not impossible that some will ignore
nbsp;). It makes sense to me to go with the standard non-breaking space, which was made for instances such as these. —
Justin (
ko
vf
02:54, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
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I guess I'm still not seeing the advantage of keeping the emdash with the word before it when the line width is so small.
Powers
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11:21, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
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broken links
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Hi! I think you were involved in running
this list
of broken links.. do you think it would be possible to run it again? A bunch have gotten fixed in the meantime and I like having the list to work off of! Thanks, --
Phoebe
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05:24, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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Phoebe
I'll definitely take a look but I'm not sure how much I have to offer. I'm active at both projects though, so I want them to both be good. —
Justin (
ko
vf
05:26, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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I found the
old discussion
:) --
Phoebe
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06:43, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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Phoebe
Excellent. I've worked on trying to bring WMF and DMOZ communities together, including Wikivoyage. —
Justin (
ko
vf
06:44, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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User rights
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Hi, Justin. What did you mean
here
? What user rights would you like?
All the best,
Ikan Kekek
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06:52, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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Ikan Kekek
Earlier at the Pub (I can find diffs if you really need), users mentioned fighting spam by editing the Abuse Filter. I suspect that someone suggested I do it because I am an admin at WT as well and they implied that they would let me edit it. Someone else ended up doing the work and making an effective filter. Again, I'm not hung up on it at all: I was just a little confused. If you think it might be a good fit, I'd be happy to help. —
Justin (
ko
vf
06:55, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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I see. I'd like to see you do more work here before I'd consider nominating you for admin. How long have you been an Admin at WT?
All the best,
Ikan Kekek
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07:22, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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Ikan Kekek
I wasn't even suggesting that I'd be an admin as such (although I would be willing). I've been an admin on all editions of Wikitravel except the Japanese one for just over a year. —
Justin (
ko
vf
07:24, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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I don't know what user statuses Wikitravel currently has, but on Wikivoyage, there's nothing between Autopatroller and Admin.
Ikan Kekek
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08:40, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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In any case, do keep editing here and be patient, and then in a few months, if you would like more tools to help keep the floors clean and the windows wiped, we can revisit this.
All the best,
Ikan Kekek
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09:55, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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Ikan Kekek
Of course. On
w:
, there is a user right just for editing the abuse filter. This is a lot smaller than en.wp, though so it's reasonable to go from "your edits are trusted to probably not be vandalism" to "you can delete pages and block users". Thanks. —
Justin (
ko
vf
14:10, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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Thank you
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For suggesting I should get IPBE rights.
Antiv31
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08:53, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
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Antiv31
No problem! Thanks for adding to this project. —
Justin (
ko
vf
02:19, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
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Patroller rights
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It's not related to the above discussion, but I thought you might like to get patroller rights on this wiki; this allows you to patrol edits and to rollback. The user rights group's been around, but empty, for a while, and currently has 3 members (I was first
:)). This could help you fight vandalism and perform general clenup withou being required to be an administrator. Thanks, --
Rubbish computer
HALP!
I dropped the bass?
01:36, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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Rubbish computer
That would be great, thanks. —
Justin (
ko
vf
05:22, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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No problem.
Rubbish computer
HALP!
I dropped the bass?
10:08, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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Re: Indianapolis
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Slightly confused — are you thanking me for making a productive edit, and saying that it's good that I removed that, or are you thanking me for trying to help but letting me know that you're about to revert my change?
I don't think I'll participate in significant improvements; other than a string of edits in the last hour, I've made exactly four edits since 2014, three of which were related to images I was already working on at Commons, and the fourth was a mere typo fix.
Thanks for the note!
Nyttend
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04:02, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
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Cross-namespace redirects
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I've speedy deleted a few redirects you've created that went from the main namespace to project space. In general cross-namespace redirects are discouraged, and while I'm sure there are numerous discussions on Wikivoyage on the subject, Wikipedia has a whole project page that better explains the reasoning:
w:Wikipedia:Cross-namespace redirects
. --
Ryan
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22:50, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
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Wrh2
We have lots of cross-namespace redirects here. This is not an encyclopedia, so there is never going to be a destination guide for several topics that would exist for an encyclopedia. —
Justin (
ko
vf
22:52, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
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arrows
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could you please put the bot flag on the edits. Would be good to set up bot user for this so we can quickly undo if the discussion goes in another direction. --
Traveler100
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17:32, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
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Traveler100
I would but I can't change my userrights to add the bot flag. For what it's worth, there are only a few hundred left. I will just set the timer to one a minute. —
Justin (
ko
vf
17:35, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
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Traveler100
I see your edit now. I honestly can't imagine the scenario where we
wouldn't
delete this but even if we need to undo my edits, you can just bring them up in AWB by making a list from
User contribs
. —
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incorrect bot edit?
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Portrait
. --
Traveler100
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07:32, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
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Traveler100
Definitely incorrect, thank you. There were some lint errors of files using fields like "print=full" or "landscape". This one got sucked up in the rest of them. Please let me know if you see anymore, of course. —
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font lint edits
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Hi, Changing the font tags such as
...
to
...
isn't quite correct. It should be something such as
...
--
WOSlinker
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08:34, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
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WOSlinker
Man. I goofed it on some signatures. As you can see, I got other ones correct. Thanks. —
Justin (
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09:14, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
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It looks like
you got them all
. Thanks. —
Justin (
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09:18, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
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Ttfc redirect
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I deleted that. You meant
ttcf
, surely. I can't really see people looking for the wrong initials for that, can you?
Ikan Kekek
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09:29, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
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Ikan Kekek
I made it because there was an incoming link. Would you prefer to edit the other user's comment? —
Justin (
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09:31, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
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No. If someone made a typo on a talk page, why not let it be?
Ikan Kekek
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09:34, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
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Ikan Kekek
So that others can understand what he was trying to say. —
Justin (
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09:35, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
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If it's that unclear, you can reply with the correct link, but I really don't believe in cleaning up after people by creating links like that. I find that when I am texting, I often hit "w" instead of "e". So are we going to have a "nwthwrlands" link and such? I think not. I won't make a Federal case about this, though; if you really insist on re-creating this link, I won't delete it a second time, though someone else might.
Ikan Kekek
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09:41, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
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Ikan Kekek
While I agree that editing others' comments is generally best avoided, it's probably just helpful in this case. Similarly, if you really think it's preferable to have a misspelling redlink, I guess you can revert me. —
Justin (
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09:45, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
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It's probably fine, will probably be appreciated, and seems less drastic than creating that redirect.
Ikan Kekek
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09:51, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
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Day of the Dead..
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Thanks.
I don't sadly speak any Spanish or I would have asked the es.wikivoyage contingent for assistance.
ShakespeareFan00
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18:35, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
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ShakespeareFan00
Good news: I do (altho not terribly well...)! —
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Related: Move to Commons
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Swept
in from the
pub
In addition to files which should never have been here, there are also files which should no longer be here, such as
File:Bilbaobanner1.jpg
. —
Justin (
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22:29, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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DotM banners are explicitly supposed to be uploaded locally; see
Wikivoyage talk:Destination of the month candidates/Banners#Uploading banner images locally
. --
AndreCarrotflower
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01:16, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
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Thank you for the link. I have to disagree with the reasoning tho: there are dozens (hundreds?) of banners on Commons. That's where I put all of mine. —
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I think Andre is talking about Destination of the month banners (that go on the Main Page for one month), which are a different thing than banners that are placed at the top of the articles themselves.
ϒpsilon
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05:32, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
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What's to disagree with about the reasoning? Commons admins delete images for weird and inexplicable reasons all the time. Why leave the integrity of our Main Page - and specifically that of what are almost inarguably the most prominent images on our site at any given time - up to them? --
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23:34, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
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Listings Templates
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Bellflower
shows up as has having a missing span tag (but I can't immediatly see an obvious error in a listing.). This is a different glitch from the italics one you corrected earlier. As I said elsewhere the listing template needs an overhaul.
ShakespeareFan00
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09:15, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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And it would be reasonable I feel to provide a new
{{
listing/s
}}
{{
listing/e
}}
pair in the course of time so that multi-block listings are possible, without needing to convert existing single block entries.
ShakespeareFan00
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09:31, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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ShakespeareFan00
It was because
there was an ending to an external link but no beginning to it
and
those
have special styling in MediaWiki. —
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Template errors/glitches
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Pecos_(New_Mexico)
placing image syntax in header paramater for
{{
infobox
}}
generates a missing bold tag. Moving the image to the start of the content parameter temporarily solved the problem.
ShakespeareFan00
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09:38, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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This was because of how
the titles
are styled in this template. You were fixing an error there in how the template was applied (note how "The New Mexico Campaign" is bolded but the text below is normal weight.) —
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20:10, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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Philippines
, generates missing tag when calling
{{
exchange rates
}}
There is no bold formatting directly in any parameters.
ShakespeareFan00
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09:39, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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No clue what is happening here
. —
Justin (
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20:10, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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Kuujjuaq
, generates missing tag when calling
{{
listing
}}
indirectly, highlighting from lint-error suggests
{{
buy
}}
or
{{
sleep
}}
template is culprit, No listing in those sections has bold formatting directly applied as far as I could determine.
ShakespeareFan00
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09:43, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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No clue. —
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20:10, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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Touring Shaker country
Missing i tag, highlighted
{{
see
}}
template does not use italics in parameter call.
ShakespeareFan00
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10:08, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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No clue. —
Justin (
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20:10, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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Kirkenes
generates missing b tag,
{{
routebox
}}
is the culprit, but the bold tag in it directly is balanced?
ShakespeareFan00
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12:04, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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No clue. So many of these are mind-boggling "errors" which are totally incomprehensible. —
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An award for you!
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The Wikivoyage Barncompass
jerk of a jerk reward
Jerksofthejerks
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20:25, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
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watch over the thread as it was replied within scope, dont allow wikidiots to screw with it, i also followed up
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en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage_talk:Requests_for_comment#manly_sport_&_chess
if they vandalize, get your associates on board!
This template must be substituted.
I have no clue what you're talking about. —
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00:21, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
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A data-driven look at tourist spots in the United States
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Justin (
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17:42, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
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There are more tourist attractions in the Plains/Midwest region than I would have expected.
--Comment by
Selfie City
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Requesting rollback
/patroller
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Swept
in from the
pub
It seems like we had a discussion on a rollback policy in 2022 here, but it didn't end with a page about a local policy, nor a request board for it. Sorry if this should be posted elsewhere, but I can't find a place to ask for this user right. As admins can see, I'm a trust user here since the early Wikitravel days, globally trusted in WMF with advanced rights on many wikis, and have reverted vandalism locally. I hope that requesting rollback/
patroller
here is uncontroversial. Thanks. —
Justin (
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00:51, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
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Support
, without hesitation.
Ground Zero
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00:53, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
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FWIW, this would be the patroller permission, since there is no separate rollbacker group on Wikivoyage.
𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰
𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠
00:53, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
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Done
, but please don't
welcome vandals
next time.
SHB2000
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11:14, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
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Pobody's Nerfect
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Barnstar of Humor
Thanks for
this comment
, which made me laugh.
WhatamIdoing
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19:28, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
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<3 —
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19:32, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
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Thanks
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I tried to send you a thanks for your edit on
Wikivoyage:Votes for deletion/November 2013#Template:Ping
, but the history page seems broken so I cannot simply click on the thanks
Ottawahitech
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17:14, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
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How kind. Have a good one, OHT. —
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Delicious spam
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How was my
post
spam? Don't we proudly advertise Wikivoyage apps? There are no ads, nothing. I'm almost literally paying you to visit.
Brycehughes
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It may well not be, but it definitely looked suspect. —
Justin (
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Well glad you took a look.
Brycehughes
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23:46, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
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Happy holidays!
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Happy holidays, Koavf!
Kia ora, Koavf, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Thank you for all the hard work you've put in the last year to make Wikivoyage the place it is today. Enjoy the festive season from wherever you are in the globe.
Greetings from
Te Moeka o Tuawe
Te Tai Poutini
Aotearoa
(Fox Glacier, West Coast, New Zealand)
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How kind, S. I hope that you and yours on the bottom of the earth have safe and happy holidays and a fantastic 2024. —
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One-liner dashes
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I now see that there indeed seems to be a consensus on using n-dashes in the one-liners. I am still quite frustrated by how you did your edits in
United States of America
. You changed to n-dashes in an edit where you also changed the order of cities, with no edit summary. On being reverted, you reinstated the n-dashes, saying that you reverted the revert, while IK had reverted you because of the city order change. Only when I reverted your edit, you mentioned the discussion "on the talk page". Indeed,
Wikivoyage talk:One-liner listings#Ndashes, not mdashes
has a four-user consensus on the change, but it was never introduced in the guideline.
If you had instead, in your edit summary, said "changed to n-dashes, according to change in the guideline" – after changing the guideline according to the consensus – I would have seen the change in the guideline and never reverted you, and you had made many people aware of the change. Now you forced me to check the edits, copy the dashes to another program to see what happened (the font in the diffs don't make a clear distinction in my browser), and search for the discussion.
Please edit guidelines before enacting intended changes in them, and please use adequate edit summaries when reverting edits that aren't test edits, vandalism or spam. Also, when copy editing according to a guideline change, please use the opportunity to make people aware of the change by appropriate edit summaries. Links are better than to just refer to "the talk page" (or "the guideline" – there may be several related ones), especially when you aren't referring to the talk page of the page you are editing.
Could you please edit the guidelines now, accordingly? In addition to
Wikivoyage:One-liner listings
, there should be changes at least to
Wikivoyage:Listings
and to most (all?) article templates.
LPfi
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07:15, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
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Thanks. I did edit one guideline already but I'm not seeing the place on
Wikivoyage:Listings
that would be changed. I'm happy to help here, but I just don't know what the change is that's needed. I've also reviewed a number of Manual of Style pages prior to my last edits and I didn't immediately see any other changes required, but I'll search the namespace again for "em dash" and "endash". —
Justin (
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I've made a handful of edits to the Wikivoyage namespace that I think reflect best practices and updated template documentation. If there's more that I can do, please let me know. —
Justin (
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16:51, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
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Thank you. Seems I had a blackout regarding what
Wikipedia:Listings
is like. I will check whether I find more pages to adjust. –
LPfi
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07:43, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
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As a sidenote, it may be more useful if the parameters mentioned in the
Template parameters
section of
Wikivoyage:listings
article were in the exact same order as in the templates presented further down that page. --
89.241.71.95
08:11, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
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That's probably best, sure. —
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UNESCO
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Many thanks for adding that
additional information
. Just the job. --
89.241.67.66
19:29, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
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Thank you. —
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